Comments on: Will the Left 4 Dead 2 Boycott Survive? http://www.zmogo.com/video-games/will-the-left-4-dead-boycott-survive/ Information about New and Popular Gadgets Sat, 13 Mar 2010 02:32:58 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: scp http://www.zmogo.com/video-games/will-the-left-4-dead-boycott-survive/comment-page-1/#comment-2699 scp Mon, 16 Nov 2009 22:37:14 +0000 http://www.zmogo.com/?p=3432#comment-2699 I'm torn and partial to both sides of this... But... on the bright side, a few months after the game's released, more than likely the game will be on sale. We all know Steam is good for that... I say be patient and just nab the game when it goes for 50% off. I’m torn and partial to both sides of this…

But… on the bright side, a few months after the game’s released, more than likely the game will be on sale. We all know Steam is good for that… I say be patient and just nab the game when it goes for 50% off.

]]> By: Iki http://www.zmogo.com/video-games/will-the-left-4-dead-boycott-survive/comment-page-1/#comment-2535 Iki Thu, 15 Oct 2009 15:26:39 +0000 http://www.zmogo.com/?p=3432#comment-2535 Im sorry Nickt, but the versus and survival campaigns argument is bullshit. they had 4 campaigns, and the the versus mode was only availably on 2 of them, for no apparent reason. WTF anyone? then they added them and called it an 'update'. Well suck my sick Valve. And survival? what, play on the same maps, only with a timer to see how long you can stay alive? gove me a fucking break. Valve added 1 thing to the game: a lighthouse. wow. awesome. I wont buy L4D2 because valve lied to the players. besides, why dump another 37 euros on L4D2 when about this time next year there will be L4D3? As far as online gaming goes, Valve lost me forever on this one. Im sorry Nickt, but the versus and survival campaigns argument is bullshit. they had 4 campaigns, and the the versus mode was only availably on 2 of them, for no apparent reason. WTF anyone? then they added them and called it an ‘update’. Well suck my sick Valve. And survival? what, play on the same maps, only with a timer to see how long you can stay alive? gove me a fucking break. Valve added 1 thing to the game: a lighthouse. wow. awesome.
I wont buy L4D2 because valve lied to the players. besides, why dump another 37 euros on L4D2 when about this time next year there will be L4D3?
As far as online gaming goes, Valve lost me forever on this one.

]]> By: Nickt http://www.zmogo.com/video-games/will-the-left-4-dead-boycott-survive/comment-page-1/#comment-2398 Nickt Wed, 12 Aug 2009 13:50:54 +0000 http://www.zmogo.com/?p=3432#comment-2398 First of all the boycotter's complain of not enough content being released for Left 4 Dead, Yet Valve has released a game mode titled "Survival" along with the release of two campaigns added to the "Versus" game mode. Later on this month, Valve will be releasing another Campaign for Left 4 Dead titled "Crash Course" which will be a bridge between No Mercy and Death Toll. Once Left 4 Dead 2 is released, Valve will still be adding content for the original Left 4 Dead. I don't see why they complain about the "Lack" of content. When you bought this game, You bought it to play the game, Not for the content that will be released in the future, Valve dosen't need to release any Content if they do not wish to, and that "Promise" of content they made to you is the very same thing your Boycotting. If this much Content comes out, Then you must pay for it, Things in life aren't Free. Second, Left 4 Dead 2 can not be released as Downloadable Content for these reasons: (1) Left 4 Dead 2 now runs with AI Director (2.0), Which is superior to the AI Director (1.0). AI Director (2.0) will Change many things in the game, Including the games whether, The games routes that are taken to reach a safe house, and tailor every 'zombies' clothing, In every spawn the zombie has. That alone, To be added as Downloadable Content would take over 4 monthes, For a system like the XBox 360, Not including the other features the AI Director (2.0) has. Reason (2) There will be 5 New Campaigns, 4 New Survivors, Over 10 New Weapons, Including Melee Weapons, and 3 New Special Infected. These new Tools/AI would take a very long time to convert into something small enough that it could be Downloadable Content, Maybe only 1 Campaign could come out at a time, Which is pointless if were getting them all together, Including the weapons and the Special Infected. Clearly you see why this cannot be "Free" as the boycotters wish it to be. Most of the Boycotters will be first in line the day of release, Which I find amusing. I think that we can all agree that 60$ Is a small price to pay for the sequel of one of the greatest Multyplayer Games on the market. First of all the boycotter’s complain of not enough content being released for Left 4 Dead, Yet Valve has released a game mode titled “Survival” along with the release of two campaigns added to the “Versus” game mode. Later on this month, Valve will be releasing another Campaign for Left 4 Dead titled “Crash Course” which will be a bridge between No Mercy and Death Toll. Once Left 4 Dead 2 is released, Valve will still be adding content for the original Left 4 Dead. I don’t see why they complain about the “Lack” of content. When you bought this game, You bought it to play the game, Not for the content that will be released in the future, Valve dosen’t need to release any Content if they do not wish to, and that “Promise” of content they made to you is the very same thing your Boycotting. If this much Content comes out, Then you must pay for it, Things in life aren’t Free. Second, Left 4 Dead 2 can not be released as Downloadable Content for these reasons: (1) Left 4 Dead 2 now runs with AI Director (2.0), Which is superior to the AI Director (1.0). AI Director (2.0) will Change many things in the game, Including the games whether, The games routes that are taken to reach a safe house, and tailor every ‘zombies’ clothing, In every spawn the zombie has. That alone, To be added as Downloadable Content would take over 4 monthes, For a system like the XBox 360, Not including the other features the AI Director (2.0) has. Reason (2) There will be 5 New Campaigns, 4 New Survivors, Over 10 New Weapons, Including Melee Weapons, and 3 New Special Infected. These new Tools/AI would take a very long time to convert into something small enough that it could be Downloadable Content, Maybe only 1 Campaign could come out at a time, Which is pointless if were getting them all together, Including the weapons and the Special Infected. Clearly you see why this cannot be “Free” as the boycotters wish it to be. Most of the Boycotters will be first in line the day of release, Which I find amusing. I think that we can all agree that 60$ Is a small price to pay for the sequel of one of the greatest Multyplayer Games on the market.

]]> By: Richie http://www.zmogo.com/video-games/will-the-left-4-dead-boycott-survive/comment-page-1/#comment-2285 Richie Sat, 27 Jun 2009 12:04:39 +0000 http://www.zmogo.com/?p=3432#comment-2285 It's funny really. You guys should just be happy that Valve makes these awesome games for us in the first place. If they said that they were going to do more with the first, but changed their minds and instead wanted to work on the second, then who cares? Play the second... it looks really good! It’s funny really. You guys should just be happy that Valve makes these awesome games for us in the first place. If they said that they were going to do more with the first, but changed their minds and instead wanted to work on the second, then who cares? Play the second… it looks really good!

]]> By: Brad http://www.zmogo.com/video-games/will-the-left-4-dead-boycott-survive/comment-page-1/#comment-2274 Brad Tue, 23 Jun 2009 23:18:07 +0000 http://www.zmogo.com/?p=3432#comment-2274 wow they havn't even played the game yet and they say it's "bad". Thats just pathetic, more than half if not all will buy they game anyways because all they wanted to do is jump on the bandwagon. LFD2 will come and it will be as good if not better than LFD1. So just suck it up go cry about it somehere else, im buying the game, its going to come out no matter what you do, and get over it wow they havn’t even played the game yet and they say it’s “bad”. Thats just pathetic, more than half if not all will buy they game anyways because all they wanted to do is jump on the bandwagon. LFD2 will come and it will be as good if not better than LFD1. So just suck it up go cry about it somehere else, im buying the game, its going to come out no matter what you do, and get over it

]]> By: THEBIG420 http://www.zmogo.com/video-games/will-the-left-4-dead-boycott-survive/comment-page-1/#comment-2267 THEBIG420 Sun, 21 Jun 2009 20:33:06 +0000 http://www.zmogo.com/?p=3432#comment-2267 People need to suck it up, tons of franchises release sequels every single year seriously now, and if people love playing the first game they are still going to play online regardless of a sequel. It is a popular enough game that it will still cater to two huge audiences. Who gives a shit about this boycott anyways its ridiculous. Valve has already said in response to this they are still releasing additional content SINCE the boycott and as well PC users can mod their own levels, so stfu already. Screaming little children I swear. People need to suck it up, tons of franchises release sequels every single year seriously now, and if people love playing the first game they are still going to play online regardless of a sequel. It is a popular enough game that it will still cater to two huge audiences. Who gives a shit about this boycott anyways its ridiculous. Valve has already said in response to this they are still releasing additional content SINCE the boycott and as well PC users can mod their own levels, so stfu already. Screaming little children I swear.

]]> By: Alan http://www.zmogo.com/video-games/will-the-left-4-dead-boycott-survive/comment-page-1/#comment-2231 Alan Mon, 15 Jun 2009 18:13:15 +0000 http://www.zmogo.com/?p=3432#comment-2231 I agree with the writter of this article :3 We should go with our shotguns and kill all the boycot... I mean zombies and finish the infection! L4D2 FTW I agree with the writter of this article :3

We should go with our shotguns and kill all the boycot… I mean zombies and finish the infection!

L4D2 FTW

]]> By: Adrian http://www.zmogo.com/video-games/will-the-left-4-dead-boycott-survive/comment-page-1/#comment-2230 Adrian Mon, 15 Jun 2009 14:40:23 +0000 http://www.zmogo.com/?p=3432#comment-2230 The facts are simpler and don't need cheesy brainless hordes metaphors: Valve promised specific extra content for L4D1 right after its launch. That extra content hasn't been released (no, the survivor update had nothing to do with the content of those promises). But it is clearly part of the new additions of L4D2 over L4D1. Moreover, according to Valve’s declarations we shouldn’t expect anything like that in the futures L4D1 updates. So Valve lied us. That’s why I won’t support the incoming L4D2 myself. The facts are simpler and don’t need cheesy brainless hordes metaphors: Valve promised specific extra content for L4D1 right after its launch. That extra content hasn’t been released (no, the survivor update had nothing to do with the content of those promises). But it is clearly part of the new additions of L4D2 over L4D1. Moreover, according to Valve’s declarations we shouldn’t expect anything like that in the futures L4D1 updates. So Valve lied us. That’s why I won’t support the incoming L4D2 myself.

]]> By: Anthony Bruce http://www.zmogo.com/video-games/will-the-left-4-dead-boycott-survive/comment-page-1/#comment-2227 Anthony Bruce Mon, 15 Jun 2009 03:22:03 +0000 http://www.zmogo.com/?p=3432#comment-2227 The author of this story fails to comprehend what "quality games" are to the people who are boycotting L4D2. You are arguing that you cannot ever release sequels based on the group's wording, but releasing a multiplayer-based game should warrant a time frame of 1-2 years after the release where the game is not to be rivaled by a successor. Obviously the people who are arguing against the boycott are not paying much attention to history either, as I have never heard of a sequel releasing within less than a year of the previous game, which is essentially what a lot of people are mad about. If L4D2 releases and is in fact a "quality game," the L4D community will be in ruin, as in its current shape it doesn't look really good, and in essence many people will spend $120 roughly on a completed, fully supported L4D (L4D2). If it releases and isn't a great game, what gives you the idea they will automatically refer back to L4D updates, rather than work on the improved L4D2? While the author does point out the obvious fact here, that anyone can boycott anything for any reason and noone can really do anything about it, he fails to truly see both sides of the story, disregarding certain details about the release of L4D2 and twisting the meaning of the requests. The author of this story fails to comprehend what “quality games” are to the people who are boycotting L4D2. You are arguing that you cannot ever release sequels based on the group’s wording, but releasing a multiplayer-based game should warrant a time frame of 1-2 years after the release where the game is not to be rivaled by a successor. Obviously the people who are arguing against the boycott are not paying much attention to history either, as I have never heard of a sequel releasing within less than a year of the previous game, which is essentially what a lot of people are mad about. If L4D2 releases and is in fact a “quality game,” the L4D community will be in ruin, as in its current shape it doesn’t look really good, and in essence many people will spend $120 roughly on a completed, fully supported L4D (L4D2). If it releases and isn’t a great game, what gives you the idea they will automatically refer back to L4D updates, rather than work on the improved L4D2? While the author does point out the obvious fact here, that anyone can boycott anything for any reason and noone can really do anything about it, he fails to truly see both sides of the story, disregarding certain details about the release of L4D2 and twisting the meaning of the requests.

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